earth quick and easy:
"so it came to me. the dream world is created in an instant, right? or maybe not an instant, some of it may have been swimming around in the unconscious for a while, but still it's pretty fast, right? coupled with that, the idea that i dreamed my way into earth, well what do you have? the concept that maybe earth is somehow part of the dream world, or was created out of the dream world, and that maybe it too was constructed pretty fast."
"the word "constructed" that you use, that just goes against what we normally think of how things, you know, buildings, roads, manufactured items, are made, like really slowly and using mechanical means."
"right, mental manufacturing is quicker and easier than manual or mechanical ways. the difference between the dream and earth is that the dream world is a blur most of the time, but the dream world extension that is earth is clear and in more detail, but it's still just an extension nevertheless."
"well it's the detail and the stability that make it seem real. it's like a computer image file loading slowly, a few big blurry blocks to start with and then it clears up into detail. the dream is the blurry image and earth is the clear image. that's a thought. i suppose it's a problem for some, the whole earth thing and science seeming to work perfectly in a lot of cases. there's the thinking i've read that how could we tell if everything were virtual, you know, if it were like a vast computer simulation, and obviously this is coming from a position where everything seems normal and odd things don't happen, you know, like it's all physical science in perfect order."
"we see glitches, real errors in the coding of earth."
"yeah, like the program has bugs, if it were a computer simulation, that is."
"right, things have happened, definitely, that make it impossible to really believe anymore. it's almost ironic. it's like the only person who knows earth isn't quite real is the person running a pretty bad, poor quality "earth simulation computer program". he's the guy with the crappy software or computer. the guy with the bug free perfect program probably still thinks earth is completely real, all science is true, and Physicalism explains everything."
"perhaps, but maybe no one buys it all, believes in everything like that."
"you're right. i guess everyone has doubts at some point. you know, but yet we're probably dismissed as crazy schizophrenics. it's like, oh you just have problems with your perception, a few crossed wires there in your brain, that's what it is, which is somehow getting divorced from a physical world."
"well ok, back on track, so earth was created in an instant or pretty quick. so when did it start? because then the earth history that we have is a lie, right?"
"well, at the start, i guess we were all in worlds of our own or in little groups of neighbouring people sharing a world. and then we imagined and dreamed earth into existence some time later, and then we slowly started to populate earth, of course, earth being a world full of philosophical zombies to start with and just a few real people."
"your best guess?"
"i don't know. from what i'm led to think, i'm guessing earth began in the 1800's. maybe the first real person on earth came before. but then, i think reality is only a few hundred years old. i know this is very alternative. what we have in the general domain of theories is that it is anything from a few thousand years old to billions of years old. what i think they've grossly underestimated is how fast things happen and how large the unconscious is and what it's capable of and how much existed right at the start of time."
"but you're an Idealist. you believe in the greater mental. it's an extreme position perhaps. it certainly means you disagree with both Creationists and people who think evolution is true."
"people who believe in evolution believe in Physicalism."
"and ok, so what is the true date, assuming that one, an accurate calendar was kept right from day one, and two, that you know what it is?"
"the year is 442 and today the date is September 24."
CLEARCHARGE
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